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Kekistan_United 6 points ago +6 / -0

this is NOT the great reset they wanted; this digital revolution that they cant profit or control

LOLz. get fukt cuntz

it can destabilized countries, starting with smaller ones

in other words, if the world stops using the dollar, people like the Cunt Clinton, wont have jobs; cus they are pointless.

they cant tax you if you dont pay to their system.

their whole fucking world is collapsing in front of their eyes.

and there is nothing they can do.

you cant stop the signal, mal

el salvador and others are looking to move away from world banks via crypto

the banks that pay these corrupted assholes to control you.

a colleague of mine messaged me to say that

once they look to regulate and or ban crypto, like everything else, its over

and i said

like how they regulate cocaine and heroin?

lol

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Whomped 2 points ago +2 / -0

The banks already own a ridiculous amount of the bitcoin supply and have for years. A cashless society is exactly what the great reset requires.

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BigIglooActual 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, it's not a threat to them. They only pretend it is just enough to make you think it's sticking it to the man....when in reality it's what they want

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CaptainButthurt 1 point ago +1 / -0

And ironically too many tech leftists are too highly invested now too for the old guard to do anything anymore. Cryptos are here to stay and fiats are like the Dodo bird. Soon to be extinct.

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Kekistan_United 2 points ago +2 / -0

even that cunt hillary is wise to how this will change the world.

wake up my apes!

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mean_mission [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

buy signal

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CaptainButthurt 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wish her stroked out brain would re-stroke and do the world a favor.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

hear hear!

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ShowMeWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's a feature, not a bug.

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Needmorepopcorn 2 points ago +2 / -0

KEK after I saw the news this morning I bought more big fucking surprise it went up.

These faggots and there fud are long over due for a purging

Whats the ETA on faggot musk fud or china fud i smell a good dip incoming just in time to get in the spirit of giving.

Cheers apes glad to see apes are strong together.

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haiti would like to have a chat with Clinton, but they agree with living.

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CaptainButthurt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Take that as the ultimate indication to BUY BUY BUY!

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unpopular Opinion: its way easier to add whole numbers that turn into fractions than incredibly small fractions that almost never add up to whole numbers. In fact, I could not think of a more annoying characteristic of currency.

Assuming 7,000,000,000,000 global participants, Having 22000000 total is basically like having btw 1 & 318,182 , when it comes to "currency." IOW, not enough...

Unpopular Fact: Bitcoins are REPLICABLE for all intents and purposes, and that has been done, a thousand times. Second most annoying characteristic of a (decentralized) currency(s): having so many decentralized currencies that I have to buy them all and cant ever figure out the spread and the . . . ugh

Unpopular Opinion: its way privater to deal in cash, and way less private to deal in digital currency, so much so that actual governments are starting to implement it, so NO THANKS for that.

Unpopular Fact: It is way more efficient to deal in cash, both on the front, middle, and back end. Anything that requires a constant stream of electricity, including the evolution of even our modern banking of cash, is technically unsustainable. electric Banks(wallets)(hubs) + Electric cash = less sustainable

Popular Opinion: If Hilary Clinton is sending BUY signals to people on this board to buy something, that means she wants them to buy it, so I will continue to NOT invest in ANY shit"coin"s. She may be evil, but she ain't dumb.

Popular Fact: There are 2 certainties in life: Death & Taxes. Anyone who thinks that by not dealing in the currency of the place they live exempts them from taxes for their gains while there, will be sad to know that they are 100% WRONG! Bitcoin has no effect on taxes, or value, for that matter.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

somewhat agree except that...

silk road and silk road's children.

all successfully operated in spite of your claims.

and as far as i know, no one yet has been caught or imprisoned for using those markets. minus the guy they claim was his pirateousness roberts...

for the sake of argument...

lets say i want to buy a lamborghini huracan...

do you know how big, volumetrically, that much money will be, with cash...

you have valid arguments. and i agree somewhat.

but thats not to say that crypto cant work.

cus it has, in private secure markets for the better part of a decade.

Bitcoins are REPLICABLE for all intents and purposes, and that has been done, a thousand times.

do not concur

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe Should say duplicable, and not replicable, but I mean: what’s the difference in one coin and another with the same circulation and terms. It’s like a saturated market no matter where you are. Like dealing In francs, pounds, dollars, rubles, and yen all at the same time.

The people who got in first on whatever revolving shitcoin they throw out this week are the rockafellers of the day. What’s the difference? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Am I to trust a pack of folks who ignore laws and salivate over lambos to be any different than the satan worshipers currently in charge? Fat fn chance.

The difference is ONLYwhether they got away with it, though, BC laws were broken. We all take risks in different ways. Some take the risk of evading taxes and avoiding prosecution. People like to change the terms to justify their actions, but the popular idea that if it is not reported you don’t have to pay taxes is false, and I fear that too many will soon find out just how publicly they have evaded the tax laws of their governments, and that their most important premise providing strength to their value of shitcoins will be proven 100% false.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

you started out saying its all pointless cus the encrypted coins have been comprimised.

now you move the goal post and say its about the laws. and breaking them.

cool.

i stand by my notion that once digital wallets are simple and easy,

like using the internet on your phone. its all over.

no laws can stop it.

i recall a time they used to charge us 'long distance' charges for calls.

and now they dont. cus the cat is out of the bag.

you can contact damn near anyone in the world, from anywhere, nearly free.

this will be the exact same thing.

i have used bitcoin. and its never been comprimised; my whole point.

similarly, here is a fun one for you.

i own a company in montana. its a registered LLC.

that company owns all my vehicles, as business assets... legally.

so when 'my business' went to buy a new 100k car. i didnt pay taxes on it.

because montana does not require taxes be collected on business assets.

so when you say:

Some take the risk of evading taxes and avoiding prosecution.

i just LOL.

prove to me what bitcoins i own, how much and where.

and i will gladly agree with everything you say.

otherwise. here i sit. watching my money grow.

and no one is between water it and me.

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thought we were carrying on diff angles.

I did not mean the encrypted coins are compromised. Your bitcoins are as secure as anything digitally encrypted with infinity (essentially). BUT I meant that there are now 1,000++ digital currencies, all secured in the same way. What keeps centralized currencies few? Other than first-mover advantage, what makes Bitcoin different from metastatic coin? Tried to clarify by saying “duplicable.” Security is a plus, imo, but my bank deposits insured, so...

What does the purchase of biz assets have to do with paying taxes? Other than sales tax to purchase, and perhaps ad velorum tax, no one expects to pay taxes on the cost of a vehicle, because that cost would be deducted directly or depreciated and reduce taxes.

To answer here and elsewhere, if I work for you in Montana, and you pay me 6 oranges, then we both would need an appraisal on those 6 oranges, you for payroll AND income tax purposes, and me for the same reason. Sub 6 bitcoins for oranges, same story.

If you are dealing in Bitcoin in the USA and think that exempts you from paying taxes on what you make, you are wrong. Let it grow, but when you use it to pay, translate back to dollars to determine gain/loss.

That is the job of the $87,000,000,000.00 worth of Irs agents the Resident is trying to hire.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

its been almost ten years, and while i agree; no one can tell me when i bought bitcoin and how much of it i have...

and its enough that the IRS should care, based on your argument.

not saying your argument isnt valid.

im saying ive yet to see any of the consequences that you speak.

and i have been exempt while working in the US and other places.

because, again. no one can tell me how much i have and when or where i used it. or much of anything...

other than random conjecture online about how 'im going to get caught inevitably'

much like all these guns i keep telling the feds i lost in the caribbean.

where are they all, where are they kept, and to what nefarious ends do i use them?

i sit here and tell you i have bitcoin and i use it and its not taxed, by definition.

and you just keep saying 'no, you are wrong and a liar'

like, cool. i dont know anything. and im wrong about it all.

i have six cars. and have never paid sales tax on them.

my brand new vette, costs me 200 a year to keep it registered.

all i can say is to repeat what Trump said; why would you pay more than you have to, regarding taxes?

i use, have and store bitcoin; i dont pay taxes.

whatever boogey man you think is hiding in your closet waiting to ambush you...

well that person doesnt exist.

and i kind of feel sorry that you dont get that.

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never said you are a liar. Cant lie when speculating, so don’t even know, from whence came the ‘inner quotes?’

You are paying a lot of lip service, and sitting on your laurels/lambos.

My point is that your point reduces to, “so sue me.” I’m simply revealing my derivative bet, that the irs will essentially do just that.

How, you ask, IDK, but again, Resident and swamp are talking 87,000,000,000.00 in agents and crypto concerns in the same breath.

Isn’t Bitcoin peer reviewed? Isn’t it possible that your position that “it never happened” be challenged by the books of those without whom it never happened?

Could that position become precarious if challenged by someone who suddenly agreed that, it never happened? Could you both defend your consideration for purchases and argue it never happened, if somehow pulled into court both ways? Could anyone in your stated position? Would Double jeopardy help at all?

Did Trump mean you didn’t have to pay taxes you owed? Is what I am saying in any way incongruent with Trumps point? Do you believe that not paying taxes you legally owe falls within not paying more taxes than you HAVE to? Was he probably talking about tax avoidance, and not tax evasion? Are you even making any argument that I am wrong, or just that you will never get caught?

I’m responding, but are you, really?

It has been, nearly 10 years (7-8). Irs statute of limitations goes 10+. 87billion in the hopper. Idk, it sounds like it hasn’t quite been a LOOONG time in Irs terms.

I would like to hear you play devils advocate on, how could a government prove it? I think your answers would be more useful than mine, in that regard.

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MasksAreChildAbuse 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ve been kind of tepid with bitcoin. Not sure it’s true intentions. But the fact this bitch is against it tells me it is legit. It’s not real blah blah, yeah true, but neither is the US dollar as they just print as much as they want and steal my money through inflation. I’m upping my bitcoin buys.

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Kekistan_United 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not sure it’s true intentions.

its original intent, was to let the people and not cunts like her, control your future.

a hundred years ago, in the US

there was no taxman in the middle of you buying a cow or land.

we are not free.

but if we had our own money to trade.

we would never pay into a slave system ever again.

which means politicians dont get paid.

it means the clinton foundation doesnt have any backing or power.

the US as it stands would die in a year or two.

then they could print all the money they wanted, cus nobody uses it.

THEN they couldnt just insert themselves as overlords cus 'muh ballots'

cus we wouldnt give a fuck and they wouldnt have our money.

thats TRILLIONS; it will be a reckoning

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your argument is one against taxes, though, not any arbitrary currency. Implementation of Bitcoin neither nowhere nor worldwide will save you from the taxman.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

if i pay you 6 oranges for your work last week.

where was the tax man there?

if i own my digital wallet as do you. there is no one in between. its the entire premise of satoshi's white paper.

a digitally encrypted method for two people to exchange and keep account of their currency.

you think all the restaurants in the world are keeping track of the cash that is handed to them.

come on man. its not that hard to imagine.

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I promise, Kek U, I have considered it, and get it. Called like kind exchange. It’s not revolutionary, in fact, it’s no different than regular currency, in effect.

No, they don’t, but many get busted. If your intention is to evade taxes, that’s the risk to which I refer. Yea, calm waters now, but every time you do it is another liability if you wanna be real.

All this prove it jive will be moot if the taxman ever does come knocking, bc it will have alrewady been. Again, secure as ever but private as a facial wart.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

its no different than regular currency

disagree. the IRS-boogey man can freeze my accounts if im of the wrong political affiliation.

not so, with crypto.

like, i agree with your sentiment, on its premise. its not ready for primetime.

but really you keep making these claims and then having to clarify,

to a different goal post and then come back and say 'this is what i meant'

and honestly, with the amount of bitcoin i have and use,

the IRS should have come for me LOOOOOOOONG ago.

then i realized, my name or identification was never bound to what i own.

much like all my assets. its all LLCs and psuedonyms for 'business'.

if they actually looked up who i am and what i do,

they would see i make $0.

and what i own might have value, sure.

but like Elon, that doesnt mean i pay taxes on things of value, as it stands.

for fucks sake, no one even knows if satoshi is who they say.

but you think IRS can find me and my pithy little crypto usage?

im actually morbidly curious now.

how?

how will the IRS find me, my hashes, and my digital wallet

and what i buy with my crypto.

take me down that road, if you please.

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never said you are a liar. Cant lie when speculating, so don’t even know, from whence came the ‘inner quotes?’

You are paying a lot of lip service, and sitting on your laurels/lambos.

My point is that your point reduces to, “so sue me.” I’m simply revealing my derivative bet, that the irs will essentially do just that.

How, you ask, IDK, but again, Resident and swamp are talking 87,000,000,000.00 in agents and crypto concerns in the same breath.

Isn’t Bitcoin peer reviewed? Isn’t it possible that your position that “it never happened” be challenged by the books of those without whom it never happened?

Could that position become precarious if challenged by someone who suddenly agreed that, it never happened? Could you both defend your consideration for purchases and argue it never happened, if somehow pulled into court both ways? Could anyone in your stated position? Would Double jeopardy help at all?

Did Trump mean you didn’t have to pay taxes you owed? Is what I am saying in any way incongruent with Trumps point? Do you believe that not paying taxes you legally owe falls within not paying more taxes than you HAVE to? Was he probably talking about tax avoidance, and not tax evasion? Are you even making any argument that I am wrong, or just that you will never get caught?

I’m responding, but are you, really?

It has been, nearly 10 years (7-8). Irs statute of limitations goes 10+. 87billion in the hopper. Idk, it sounds like it hasn’t quite been a LOOONG time in Irs terms.

I would like to hear you play devils advocate on, how could a government prove it? I think your answers would be more useful than mine, in that regard.

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Kekistan_United 1 point ago +1 / -0

agree that crypto is volatile and risky

agree also that IRS would love to get their gains from crypto trades.

BUT

i dont trade using brokerages. theres no 1099 to report of my buying and selling

i dont exist, as a person, regarding crypto.

and i never had my coins in someone else's digital bank or wallet.

your whole point was that its going to be controlled, im going to be caught and its all over so whats the point.

and im here like.

do you hear yourself?

most of the points you have argued for, i have negated by my living the opposite for the better part of decade.

primarly being that crypto is useless, can be duped and is a scam and the IRS will control it.

that is what i kept hearing from your posts.

and so

i have used it to buy and live, thereby not being useless

its never been duped and i concede that its been diluted and stolen by fake banks like MtGox.

and lastly. how the IRS know anything about any of my transactions with bitcoin, ever?

that, summarily, is my entire point.

and bit by bit you kept moving the goal post.

why respond to people that prance about and say 'well this what i really meant?'

its never been duped. you started the whole argument under that banner.

and now you want a real rebuttal?

come on my ape. its way past that now.

what i wont do. is reveal how i live with crypto

and i will never reveal how i can bypass the IRS.

in a similar vein.

my machines, make guns. i can make entire guns from scratch.

i buy bullets with cash.

now.

tell me.

how many guns do i own?

the only way to know is if i do my diligence as a good upstanding citizen and report my ownership.

like reporting how much cash i generate a year.

lol.

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Cuzzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ll add one more nugget, here: F blockchain and it’s underlying premise that every transaction be audited.

All Bitcoin enthusiasts get off on not paying taxes, while walking down the primrose path to never avoiding another single dollar of them. Financial tyranny. You will see. 2 certainties: Death; Taxes.

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